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Posted by nevada1234
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8/05/2008
19:26:55

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Subject: World Longest Chess Game

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Does anybody know officially, what is the world record on longest chess game in the world?

Posted by lighttotheright
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8/05/2008
19:46:00

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Define long. Do you mean in terms of actual time or moves? There is a big difference.

Posted by lighttotheright
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8/05/2008
19:51:09

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From wikipedia,

"The longest tournament chess game ever to be played under modern time rules was Nikolić-Arsović, Belgrade 1989, which lasted for 20 hours and 15 minutes, ending in a 269-move draw.[1][2] At the time this game was played, FIDE had modified the fifty move rule to allow 100 moves to be played without a piece being captured in a rook and bishop versus rook endgame, the situation in Nikolić - Arsović. FIDE has since rescinded that modification to the rule.

The longest decisive tournament game is Fressinet-Kosteniuk, Villandry 2007, which Kosteniuk won in 237 moves.[2] The last 116 moves were a rook and bishop versus rook ending, as in Nikolić - Arsović. Fressinet could have claimed a draw under the fifty-move rule, but didn't do so since neither player was keeping score, it being a rapid chess game. Earlier in the tournament, Korchnoi had successfully invoked the rule to claim a draw against Fressinet; the arbiters overruled Fressinet's argument that Korchnoi couldn't do so without keeping score. Fressinet, apparently wanting to be consistent, didn't try to claim a draw against Kosteniuk in the same situation.[3]"
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Posted by lighttotheright
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8/05/2008
19:56:09

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Tim Krabbe has lots of statistics on chess,

www.xs4all.nl
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Posted by nevada1234
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8/05/2008
21:01:47

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World Longest Chess Game

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I am talking about move wise?
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Posted by nevada1234
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8/05/2008
21:05:01

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World Longest Chess Game

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Does anybody think, if you brake that 269 move record as the world longest game would that count for something, if you broke the record on this site?
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Posted by ganstaman
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8/05/2008
21:25:58

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"Does anybody think, if you brake that 269 move record as the world longest game would that count for something, if you broke the record on this site? "

No, I doubt it very much. Especially if you are thinking that your game with tk29560 will go that long. On move 71, it was a mate in 11, even though you guys on currently on move 152.

It's half-interesting, but it's too easy to just drag games out here for it to have some real official meaning in the overall stats book.
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Posted by nevada1234
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8/05/2008
21:34:45

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Ganstaman

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I have to agree with you on that one.

Posted by gt2win
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8/06/2008
01:45:29

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The longest chess game

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is here (takes a little while to load)
game

Nothing will beat this, argument settled:)

Posted by lighttotheright
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8/06/2008
04:26:03

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That must be deliberate. I'm surprised the 50 move rule has not been triggered yet. They must be trying to take advantage of each position to maximize the potential number of moves within the 50 move rule.

The game is so long that my computer slows down trying to run the script for the it. I even get a warning from Windows saying that if the script continues the computer may become unresponsive. I kept running it anyway, but didn't have the problem for too long. I just needed to wait a couple minutes.

That game appears to be on-going, but I don't see how it can continue for much longer.


Posted by ganstaman
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8/06/2008
09:34:58

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I got the same warning script, but it did load in less than a minute for me. For those who can't/don't want to get the game to load:

stargirlsm vs. jeanybeany

It's on move 2167 right now. But again, completely ridiculous game. I know there was mate earlier, but going from memory, the position at move 71 was close to:



The game did not need nearly 2000 more moves, so that really takes away from it feeling like the legit winner of longest game.

I hope I'm not coming across as too arrogant. I know that some people can't mate with a rook and king vs a king. But at some point, you could just ask someone or look it up. It's one of the easier skills to learn.

Posted by gt2win
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8/06/2008
15:52:54

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lighttotheright + ganstaman

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Think it must be delibrate, they've both got links to the game in their profile. They call it 'the greatest chess game ever.' Very funny:)

Your not arrogant ganstaman, any normal human being who knows how to play could win from that situation if they wanted to. Perhaps they should do better things with their one and only life...


Posted by chessnovice
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8/06/2008
19:04:07

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lighttotheright

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50 move draw rule doesn't occur automatically. They would have to request draw manually, or ask Mike to declare it a draw.

Posted by lighttotheright
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8/06/2008
19:12:48

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Well, the 3rd repeat position draw rule does occur automatically.

Occasions where the 50 move rule might apply do not happen very often. Yet, it should be a simple fix. Such a fix might prevent absurd games lasting thousands of moves!

Posted by maca
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8/07/2008
05:06:34

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Threefold repetition rule is triggered automatically in GK, however the game will not end automatically, but the next person to move is given an option to claim the game a draw. Much like in normal OTB chess, the process is not automatic.


Regards,
MaCa.

Posted by lighttotheright
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8/07/2008
11:04:34

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A game I played with conditional moves ended automatically with the threefold repetition rule. Maybe it had something to do with the conditional moves. Conditional moves are active when you have a vacation flag. If the threefold repetition occurs while I am on vacation, then I won't be around to take the option. Perhaps that is why it was automatic. (But I could have taken the option when I got back, or perhaps my opponent took the option). I expected it to happen automatically and from my perspective it did.

Posted by heinzkat
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8/07/2008
14:09:29

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LTTR

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Probably your opponent just claimed it.

Posted by tugger
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8/25/2008
14:32:12

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that ridiculous game...

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without analysis, i believe it to be mate in 3 from move 71...

71... Re4 (or anywhere past the king on the 4th row)
72. Kh2 Re1 (or whatever row you're on, move to the 1st, eg Ra1, or Rb1)
73. Kh3 Rh1#

it's entirely possible that both players believe it to be drawn, and have decided to continue playing the game until one of them dies. i can remember when i first started playing chess, i thought R vs K was a draw. the first key to breaking this silly belief is knowing what the mate looks like, then forcing your opponent into the position is child's play.

Posted by kinderboy
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9/01/2008
15:22:30

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now, at move 2209 it is mate in 7.i think.