i_play_slowly
65 ( +1 | -1 ) Actually there is so much more to haiku than 5-7-5, which is perhaps the least important of its characteristics. Even the people who delight in haiku rarely understand the aesthetics. A good haiku characteristically demonstrates the virtues of concreteness, humour, loneliness, spirituality, objectivity, temporality, beauty, homeliness, and Zen, all combined with a close observation of nature, often all at once. Anyone who appreciates poetry, nature, spirituality, aesthetics, or Oriental philosophy would be well advised to pick up a book about haiku, by which I do not simply mean a book of haiku. Haiku, at its most profound, is is religion, and not just fun with syllables.
soikins
38 ( +1 | -1 ) You are wrongid=i_play_slowly , you are wrong. haiku is about sillables, like martial arts are about kicking someones a** and Kamasutra is about 100 different positions, and chess is about who calculates better. It's simple. Everything is simple and rational. Leave it to the West and they will steal sole from everything, deduct it to simple rules, make it rational and then sell it.
superblunder
5 ( +1 | -1 ) Positional Mastery.my bishops are bad my pawns are scattered and weak I am in zugzwang
superblunder
5 ( +1 | -1 ) Attacking Mastery.sacrificed my queen to pry open the kingside now I am losing
honololou
8 ( +1 | -1 ) thanksThanks, pandemona I had never realized that pawns were female
honololou
6 ( +1 | -1 ) desperationmy pawns are backward my pieces undeveloped how about a draw?
pandemona
114 ( +1 | -1 ) Aren't smiles aesthetic?I think, i_play_slowly , that it's likely most of the posters here know there's a little more to the haiku form than 5-7-5. I certainly do. But if you're suggesting we approach from a purist point of view, let's not forget that 5-7-5 in western syllables is very different from the original haiku form itself! I don't think anyone here's going to spend the time composing a beautiful chess haiku that strikes humility and wonder into the heart of every reader, so let's just have a little fun. I hope that the great haiku composers of the past would understand that, and smile rather than turn in their graves. Take pleasure in all the little things. Anyway, before this gets *chronically* off-topic, another bastardised western soulless haiku!
Why, honololou Would the king surround himself With anyone else? ;)
~ Stephen / pandemona
johnstar
8 ( +1 | -1 ) small wooden pieces move across the colored squares at my direction
maykx
8 ( +1 | -1 ) If pawns are female To trade them for Knight and Rook Is it a good move?
i_play_slowly
67 ( +1 | -1 ) Hi Pandemona,I'm not telling people how to write their haiku--my own examples should be enough proof that I am not trying to raise the bar. I am simply responding to someone's notion that there is nothing more to haiku than fooling around with words to make a daft poem. I assume that many people already know what I'm saying, but there's no need for them to be insulted. I know how to play the Scandinavian, for example, so if I find a post in which someone is explaining how to play the Scandinavian, I simply move on. I don't feel the need to criticise them for telling me what I already know. Their post wasn't meant for me. No problem.
i_play_slowly
9 ( +1 | -1 ) He commands his son to move this piece, then that piece, without explanations...
fmgaijin
6 ( +1 | -1 ) I sit in my study Moving plastic to and fro While sun wakens frogs
alice02
15 ( +1 | -1 ) Im not sure about 5 7 5 in english format eitherbut then - lots of people aren't sure about an 8 x 8 chessboard either
Sunlight dancing Twirling moves of logic On a patterned soul
fmgaijin
83 ( +1 | -1 ) Typo--Apologies <low bow>Forgot to look at my actual draft when typing. Should have read as follows:
Sitting in study Moving plastic to and fro While sun wakens frogs
No, what some poets call "American haiku" do not always follow the Japanese conventions, including the 5/7/5 pattern. But they do TRY to include the same "lightning flash" of insight that illuminates our relationship with the world. I only know about haiku in Japan and the U.S., so I cannot speak for other languages or cultures. Note: Japanese haiku do not always follow all of the conventions either, particularly when used for social purposes (such as a distinguished visitor being asked to write in the family "book"; on an occasion such as that, one generally focuses on the form and their hosts' hospitality and forsakes the "insight" mentioned above).
alice02
6 ( +1 | -1 ) oh I seeAwakening frogs Sicilian armoured Stealthy in waiting
i_play_slowly
73 ( +1 | -1 ) There is also a Japanese form of poetry called renga, or linked verses, usually written by a group of friends. The idea is that one person writes a haiku which becomes the first stanza. Someone else writes a second stanza of two lines, each consisting of seven syllables. Someone else writes a third stanza, reverting to the original form of 5-7-5. The renga proceeds, 5-7-5, 7-7, 5-7-5, 7-7... Each stanza is a whole poem in itself, yet is linked to the one before it by some kind of association. For example:
small wooden pieces move across the colored squares at my direction
The tall Queen casts her shadow across the path of my King
Would someone else care to continue?
i_play_slowly
26 ( +1 | -1 ) If I my just build on fmgaijin's post, there are even Japanese haiku, even some of the greatest, that do not follow the conventions. Sometimes capturing the moment of insight is regarded as more important than arriving at right number of syllables.
sugarandspice
5 ( +1 | -1 ) Re: Ranga chess gameMy steadfast knight intercepts My King protected for now
alice02
8 ( +1 | -1 ) Re ranga chess gameThe stream of logic Gently lifts the waiting pawn To battle onward
fmgaijin
7 ( +1 | -1 ) Renga, continuedSo intent on knights and queens That I miss the cherry moon
bucklehead
9 ( +1 | -1 ) Renga cont'd, in fmgaijin's modeBishops yet unplaced Dance through pawn walls in my dreams I am lost to chess
i_play_slowly
26 ( +1 | -1 ) rengayou folks have really got the right idea. as long as each stanza has some associative connection to the one preceding, the renga as a whole does not have to stick to some consistent plot line. i am just loving what's happening here!
sugarandspice
17 ( +1 | -1 ) Renga cont'dLost to chess in sweet slumbers Dreaming of Queens, pins and forks
i_play_slowly Yes this is fun! :-)
tag1153
28 ( +1 | -1 ) What chess has done to meMy contemplation Of this regal game of Kings Has cost me my job
At my computer For days and days at a time Cost me my marriage
Carpel tunnel wrist And diminishing eyesight Chess cost me my health
Writing stupid poems Waiting for opponent's moves Goodbye sanity
alice02
10 ( +1 | -1 ) renga contMoon shadowed pawns wait The knight leaps forward prancing On a wind of blossom
alice02
10 ( +1 | -1 ) oops that shoudl beMoon shadowed pawns wait The knight leaps forward prancing On a blossom wind
safoocat
5 ( +1 | -1 ) hellothe thread is sleeping no one has posted today the sun is rising
alice02
10 ( +1 | -1 ) andEarly sunbeams wake The trance like falling leave call The troops to action
alice02
10 ( +1 | -1 ) oopsaEarly sunbeams wake The trance like falling leaves call The troops to action
sugarandspice
8 ( +1 | -1 ) more rengaRoused troops take their positions Let noble battle commence
pandemona
9 ( +1 | -1 ) Into the center Strides a white-flagged messenger Truce? No, he lays claim!
alice02
7 ( +1 | -1 ) and in that hov'ring moment illusions roar, a leaf falls